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Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 13 Feb 2019 23:06 #20475

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CURRENT PROBLEM:
Where I hand refinished the floor is it now SHINY instead of Matte.
The areas I worked on are fully cured, as I did the refinish work a few weeks ago.
Need to make the shiny areas matte like the rest of the floor.
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backstory

Initial problem:
The workers walked across the wet floor and left 100 sneaker footprints on the finished floor.
The footprints are areas where there was excess Rubio product in their shoes and it left a sucky residue on top of the finished floor.

What Rubio then asked me to do:
1) Wait for floor to fully cure.
2) Hand sand with a maroon pad -
enough to sand off the footprints, and expose a bit of wood fiber - BUT not enough to go 100% done to bare wood.
3) Add another thin coat of Rubio Chocolate.
Note: This reactivated some of the Rubio Oil from the first coat.
4) Finished with wiping with Terrycloth

Instead of spot sanding each localized footprint, I did it by the board /large area. This way there were not light highlight areas on each footprint.

result:
Where I hand refinished the floor is it now SHINY instead of Matte.

Approximately 33% of the 1,500 sqft floor is now shiny, in patches. Ugh.

goal:
The GOAL is to get the patched “fixed” areas to become dull matte like the rest of the floor.

attempts at a fix:
Things I have tried:
• going over the shiny area with a hand pad of Extra Fine #000 - does not help.
• Rubio’s Idea: applying water to the entire floor with a microfiber cloth and letting it naturally evaporate - does not help.

I have talked with Rubio over 15 times about the issue. Their last idea was the “apply water and let it evaporate.”
Now they say start all over.

But I can’t do that because the baseboard is already installed, caulked & painted - and I would have to sand and re-waterpop the entire floor or else there would be light areas.

I just need to dull the shiny areas.

process details

finish:
Rubio Monocoat, Chocolate on European white oak.

process:
• Sanded the floor. Used a Clarke Orbital Sander with 100 Grit

• Water popped the floor (applied water to the floor and let it dry to open all the pores of the wood - this is the method to get deep, dark, rich, color tone.)

• Used a Clarke Orbital Sander to apply the Rubio: Red pad, White pad, Terrycloth

Please help me figure out a solution.
I have spent 20 hours getting out footprints, but now have this new shiny problem to contend with.

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Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 14 Feb 2019 13:32 #20476

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SAW, FYI I also posted about this on our Facebook page: wfbmag.co/2TLXpKB

Good luck with the floor!
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Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 14 Feb 2019 13:40 #20477

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Thank you Kim! Most commenters so far are saying re-coat again.

Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 15 Feb 2019 18:12 #20478

How did you applicate the Rubio. However you apply the Rubio from the beginning you need to do the same with touch ups. So if you buffed on with a white pad u need to do the same

Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 15 Feb 2019 18:19 #20479

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Hi Brian8731.
The floor was first done using a Clarke Orbital Sander to apply the Rubio: Red pad, White pad, Terrycloth.

The touchups were done By Hand.
Specifically:
1) Wait for floor to fully cure.
2) Hand sand with a maroon pad -
enough to sand off the footprints, and expose a bit of wood fiber - BUT not enough to go 100% done to bare wood.
3) Add another thin coat of Rubio Chocolate.
Note: This reactivated some of the Rubio Oil from the first coat.
4) Finished with wiping with Terrycloth

Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 15 Feb 2019 19:33 #20480

Ok so to touch up you need to use orbital sander to apply Rubio...red pad,white pad, terry cloth

Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 12 Mar 2019 13:42 #20502

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Saw,
It is simple to fix this, we would suggest to do a renovation application over the entire floor to get an even result.
1) Clean floor well with Rubio's Surface Care Spray
2) lightly buff with a maroon pad and vacuum well
3) apply some of the same color product applied first, buff in with a white pad and buf dry with a terry cloth towel under a white pad (all with the buffer)
(I believe I have seen these pictures before)

You may reach out to me if needed if you have not fixed the floor yet.
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Rubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte 28 Aug 2019 14:16 #20691

I was just discussing this with yet another client that’s having issues with that finish. Spot repairs aren’t infact that easy and the fact that they want to to spend even more time on a ‘easy fix’ is deplorable. I hope you get it all worked out. Me I’ll never use that finish ever. Too many issues and drama. Keep me posted how you make out.
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